“PROUD BOYS ARE WHITE PRIDE” NEW YORK MAGAZINE

When MSTRKRFT came out with their new album Operator a couple of weeks ago, some people at the label were concerned the cover looked too fascist. It features Proud Boys...
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Nicole Disser sporting her racist Nazi tattoos
Dante Nero, Proud Boy

Dante Nero, the Pope of Proud Boys

When MSTRKRFT came out with their new album Operator a couple of weeks ago, some people at the label were concerned the cover looked too fascist. It features Proud Boys Jesse F Keeler and Al-P wearing WWII helmets and the label was worried they looked like Nazis. The band explained that was the last thing on their minds and the label decided to “risk it.” Nothing happened.

I was thinking of this when I read an article in NY Mag’s “Bedford and Bowery” entitled, “Gavin McInnes and his Proud Boys Want to Make White Men Great Again” (title since changed but it’s in the URL). I never mentioned white men. The author asked me if we were white pride and I said, “Huh?” I made it clear that – although the white members are not remotely ashamed of being white – race is not what we’re about. She took this as “Anti-racial guilt.” You might as well call MSTRKRFT “Anti-Nazi guilt.” I demanded she change the piece and it went through at least a dozen changes but her bias is still all over it and that’s relevant because it’s the go-to bias for the media in general. This is what we will always face as a group that dares to question the “We suck” narrative. A few paragraphs in she says we’re white pride but adds,

“Actually, McInnes wouldn’t describe it in explicit terms like ‘white pride’ or ‘white supremacy.’ ‘Our motto is that, we’re Western Chauvinists who refuse to apologize for creating the modern world,’ he said matter-of-factly. ‘That’s really the only tenet.’”

54991-operatorYou might as well call MSTRKRFT Nazis and say, “Actually, the band doesn’t describe it in such explicit terms.”

This is what college is like today and it’s these Marxist brainwashing camps that most journalists come from. Look at MSNBC’s Steve Benen a few days ago. “Khizr Khan’s words won’t soon be forgotten” reads his headline about the father of a dead Muslim marine. Ten days earlier, he had this headline about the mother of dead Christian Benghazi diplomat Sean Smith, “RNC manipulates the pain of a grieving mother for partisan gain.” Journalists today aren’t looking for the truth. They are looking to steamroll their truth through whatever facts try to get in the way. This is straight outta liberal arts. I’ll never forget the English class I was in during college where we were studying Hemingway’s The Sun Also Rises. The professor told us he made the book boring to showcase how frivolous and dull the rich whites were in Spain at the time. I was sure I read something that said Hemingway loved it there and thought it was the most exciting time of his life so I brought it up. The professor said, “In this class we surpass the author’s intentions and get into the real truth of the book.” That’s right. Hemingway is no longer an expert on Hemingway and the Proud Boys no longer have any idea what their organization is about. They can pretend it’s about Western chauvinism but it’s all a ruse to hide their secret KKK tendencies. Never mind that their cofounder is black. Never mind there are plenty of Asian and gay members. In the class of modern media, we go through the facts and into the real intentions of the organization.

I wasn’t havin it so I sent her the following emails as I read the piece. Some references may be confusing because they are about a line that has since been removed.

Begin forwarded message:

From: GAVIN McINNES

Subject: Re: press inquiry

Date: July 28, 2016 at 3:52:07 PM EDT

To: Nicole Disser




WTF?

"Only the Proud Boys subscribe to an ideology of white pride."

What is it with you people constantly crowbarring that into everything that isn’t BLM?

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Begin forwarded message:

From: GAVIN McINNES

Subject: Re: press inquiry

Date: July 28, 2016 at 4:04:24 PM EDT

To: Nicole Disser




Jesus, the racial angles here are insane. “Hate Group” this “White Pride” that. I don’t know why you people hate us men so much. You think we want to prevent you from having an abortion and will try to prevent you from having a career. Believe me, I’ve seen girls like you grow up and turn 40 and they’re FUCKING MISERABLE. The patriarchy isn’t your enemy. It’s your friend.




Wasting your time with this hunt for the modern KKK isn’t dangerous. It’s just a stupid waste of time. Wasting your time with this dumb blogger project and avoiding all things MAN is dangerous because it’s going to leave you lonely and bitter.




You’re not a writer. You’re a mom. You just spun a dumb yarn about an organization you never left your desk to investigate. You weren’t even at the meet up. You didn’t investigate thoroughly (meaning leaving the computer) because you don’t really care because this vocation isn’t for you.

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Begin forwarded message:

From: GAVIN McINNES

Subject: Re: press inquiry

Date: July 28, 2016 at 4:12:36 PM EDT

To: Nicole Disser




OK this is drifting into libel now.

“Since the Proud Boys are a white pride organization no matter how you slice it,”

Begin forwarded message:

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Subject: Re: press inquiry

From: GAVIN McINNES

Date: July 28, 2016 at 10:01:37 PM EDT

Cc: "Mr. Starkes"

To: Nicole Disser




You don’t know how to write. It’s fine to say, “As far as I’m concerned, this is a white pride organization no matter how you slice it.” That’s your opinion. What you did was state this as a fact.

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On Jul 28, 2016, at 9:01 PM, Nicole Disser wrote:

I didn't think it would be untrue to describe you as a "white pride" organization since you're called the Proud Boys and the group's tenets, "white guys are not un-cool" and "white guys don't have anything to be ashamed of," etc., are focused on taking pride in white men

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Begin forwarded message:

From: GAVIN McINNES

Subject: Re: press inquiry

Date: July 28, 2016 at 9:26:59 PM EDT

To: Nicole Disser




Not being ashamed is not “white pride.” You and I both know what that term evokes. It’s not like Amish pride or even black pride. In today’s vernacular it means you think other races are inferior and would ultimately like to see them gone. That isn’t even close to what we are about.

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Begin forwarded message:

Subject: Here are the 6 allegations that got lawyers involved

From: GAVIN McINNES

Date: July 28, 2016 at 10:25:15 PM EDT

To: Nicole Disser




Starting with the title...

1- "Gavin McInnes and His ‘Proud Boys’ Want to Make White Men Great Again"




FALSE: We want to make The West / America great again. We never discuss race and our membership includes many visible minorities and yes, gays. If you had been at the meet up (as The Village Voice’s Jon Campbell was and he was stunned by our “diversity”) you’d know that.




2- "Only the Proud Boys subscribe to an ideology of white pride."

FALSE: This is libel.




3- "At its core, the group’s ideology is... driven by white pride."

FALSE: Same allegation.




4- "Unless you’re into the whole white nationalist thing (or have a twisted fascination with it), you may have lost track of Gavin McInnes."

FALSE: What are you talking about? White nationalists hate my guts. They say I’m a cuck who works for “The Jew” (Ezra Levant) and they call me a race mixer because my wife and kids are Indian. This is your interpretation of events that you are once again treating as factual.




5- "'White guys are cool,' he said, before backtracking. 'Let me rephrase that– white guys are not un-cool, white guys don’t have anything to be ashamed of.’"

FALSE: This was me reacting to your allegations that we are white pride. I said we’re not ashamed of being white, meaning, if you must get into it, we don’t subscribe to shame.

6- "Since the Proud Boys are a white pride organization no matter how you slice it"

FALSE: This one’s the doozie.

(BTW your subtle suggestion that our future meetings be shut down was not lost on us. You call us racists, make it so in your article, and then lump us in with “racists" who were successfully shut down thereby implying the same should happen to us lest we dare to try again.)

I deeply resent I’m forced to spend so much time talking about our group’s racial direction.

MSTRKRFT might as well write an essay discussing their non-existent association with Nazis. At our first meet up, race didn’t come up once (maybe a quip about police brutality during the second-degree initiation when an off duty NYPD cop was pounding on Taleeb Starkes but that’s it). The rest was fraternity and bonding and singing “Proud of Your Boy” at the top of our lungs and yes, fighting. We are about self-improvement and becoming better men. We are about getting apathetic millenials off the couch and into the dating scene. As Dante says, we want them to “lay five bricks a day.” When it’s time to propose we want men to man up and do exactly that and after they are married, we want them to be real men and provide for their families, forever.

Within all this discipline, we include the way we look.

I personally have spent way more time talking to Proud Boys about appropriate footwear than I ever have discussing race. We argue about the areas we disagree with like abortion and the existence of God. Our Sharia courts are full of cases such as members who want to abolish the tattoo requirement of the 3rd degree and anonymous members who want to contribute without even completing 1st degree (you can’t). While we go through all of these improvements, journalists and outsiders are stuck back in race. It’s a metaphor for the Western world today. We’re all trying to get our shit sorted and make our countries great again and these whiners on the sidelines are talking about injustice from 100 years ago.

There is a light at the end of this tunnel and it’s not just the Trump train.

The “racism is alive and well” narrative is imploding. The left is already starting to eat itself. Their culture of made up stats and self-hatred simply doesn’t have the truth to sustain it. When everything is racist, nothing is and they have spent so long recreating a 1950s version of America, they’ve become permanently stuck in the past. This is our year and it’s the year we leave them all behind. We are done capitulating and playing into their hands. The West is the best and that’s all there is to it!





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Described as "The Godfather of Hipsterdom," Canadian expat Gavin McInnes is a writer who cofounded Vice Magazine in 1994. After selling his shares in early 2008, he cofounded the website Street Carnage as well as the advertising agency Rooster New York. He is a regular on the Fox News show Red Eye and recently published a book of memoirs with Simon & Schuster entitled How to Piss in Public. Follow @Gavin_McInnes on Twitter.
  • chris

    The West *Is* the best, and we’ve been scorning our own rich culture. So I’ll assume this MSTRKRFT group only do covers of Schubert, maybe the Goldberg variations?

  • captainjapan8

    How much racism does the left want? More. Always more.

  • Neal Matheson

    Fantastic article I loved it, especially:
    We’re all trying to get our shit sorted and make our countries great again and these whiners on the sidelines are talking about injustice from 100 years ago.

  • robins111

    Gavin you are having far too much fun goading the left with this and other hysterically funny performances, Well done sir..

  • Chance Boudreaux

    If Romney, McCain and Bush were Hitler, we are ALL Hitler now. The left has finally reached peak Hitler.

  • blackacidlizzard

    It’s almost like no matter how hard you signal against racial solidarity you’ll still be called racist. Might as well just be racist. It’ll work out better for you.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d3b5c4a3dbdae6457cc90e9979c6155e9dd28b1552be4cb1db21775112424d84.jpg

  • Mike Enoch

    This is fucking stupid. You should put yourself in the cuck of the week section.

  • The West is the Best not merely because of our institutions. The problem with civic nationalism is it is an attempt to ignore biology. The people of Northern Europe are unique. Evolution is real, and we diverged on a different path from the rest of the globe. The institutions of the West are unique to the people of Northern Europe. This is why things like the ‘Arab Spring’ failed so miserably: genetics. So, yes if you are a ‘Proud Boy’ who is proud of ‘The West’ then, yes, you must therefore be proud of the unique genetic portfolio of ‘the West’. You can’t separate them. Yes, this means they are going to call you racists. Be proud of it.

    • The Blast Crusader

      Exactly. Western Civilization is white civilization. You can’t have western civilization when the people of it are minorities in their own countries.

  • Gil O’Teen

    why go half way gavin? white pride is just fine.

  • Mr_McGoo

    And this is why cucking never works.

  • Corvid

    Saying “The West is the Best” means “European people and their culture are Best”, even this dumb bitch understood that. This society wasn’t built by Aztecs and Ethiopians.

    If you aren’t shilling for white guilt 100% of the time, then you’re a Nazi. Keep showing them your brown friends, it won’t matter.

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